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		<title>By: gary ashton</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary ashton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is why israel must exist</description>
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		<title>By: Naomi in Jerusalem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naomi in Jerusalem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s perform a thought experiment:  An article is submitted for publication in a scientific journal in the early years of the last century.  The editor immediately looks at the signature to see if he can guess the ethnicity of the author.  &quot;Einstein&quot;, he says.  &quot;Probably a Jew.  I won&#039;t bother to read this...&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Posner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Posner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote to the editor of the Independent some months ago to complain about Richard Ingrams’ barely concealed (and sometimes not concealed at all) contempt for Jews and, of course, his more “acceptable” hatred of Israel. Unsurprisingly I didn’t receive a reply. The editor presumably thinks: “hey, we’ve got Howard Jacobson on the previous page so that cancels it all out - see how balanced we are!”. As if anti-Semitism is merely a point of view. I buy the Independent every Saturday and eagerly turn to Ingrams’ comment pieces first. Why? To prove the point to myself that I’m looking at the work, well-written as it is, of a blatant Jew-hater. For out of every three items in his weekly column one will be virtually guaranteed to include an unfavourable reference to some prominent Jew, with the odd smear on Israel thrown in for good measure on alternate weeks. Don’t believe me? Just check the archives. Sometimes he uses hack-journalism techniques, such as unnecessarily describing the authors of a critical book on the American Israel lobby with words like “authoritative” or “well-respected”. As if he’d know whether they were or not. Other times he pushes as far as he can go, as in the gratuitous display of a full-plate sized picture of Fagin from David Lean’s Oliver Twist, a grotesque Jew-caricature picture if ever there was one. But again, hey, it’s Charles Dickens, David Lean, Alec Guinness so I dare you to complain! Funnily enough, I like reading Ingrams on other subjects for he is an intelligent man. But not so much that I think he should’nt be unceremoniously got rid of, along with the editor that employs him, by the new owners of the paper. His column is the unacceptable face of journalism and too bad that there evidently aren’t more people like me who have raised this issue with the Independent in the past. Although I otherwise like the paper I’m in the peculiar position of applauding the decline in its readership; every time the increasingly-lower circulation figures are published I rejoice in the fact that there are now fewer people being incited or encouraged by Ingrams’ seemingly respectable brand of Jew-loathing.  Once he’s put out to grass I’m sure Ingrams will be able to find a nice little sinecure for himself at a British public school, the well-known anti-Semitic breeding ground from which he himself once emerged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote to the editor of the Independent some months ago to complain about Richard Ingrams’ barely concealed (and sometimes not concealed at all) contempt for Jews and, of course, his more “acceptable” hatred of Israel. Unsurprisingly I didn’t receive a reply. The editor presumably thinks: “hey, we’ve got Howard Jacobson on the previous page so that cancels it all out &#8211; see how balanced we are!”. As if anti-Semitism is merely a point of view. I buy the Independent every Saturday and eagerly turn to Ingrams’ comment pieces first. Why? To prove the point to myself that I’m looking at the work, well-written as it is, of a blatant Jew-hater. For out of every three items in his weekly column one will be virtually guaranteed to include an unfavourable reference to some prominent Jew, with the odd smear on Israel thrown in for good measure on alternate weeks. Don’t believe me? Just check the archives. Sometimes he uses hack-journalism techniques, such as unnecessarily describing the authors of a critical book on the American Israel lobby with words like “authoritative” or “well-respected”. As if he’d know whether they were or not. Other times he pushes as far as he can go, as in the gratuitous display of a full-plate sized picture of Fagin from David Lean’s Oliver Twist, a grotesque Jew-caricature picture if ever there was one. But again, hey, it’s Charles Dickens, David Lean, Alec Guinness so I dare you to complain! Funnily enough, I like reading Ingrams on other subjects for he is an intelligent man. But not so much that I think he should’nt be unceremoniously got rid of, along with the editor that employs him, by the new owners of the paper. His column is the unacceptable face of journalism and too bad that there evidently aren’t more people like me who have raised this issue with the Independent in the past. Although I otherwise like the paper I’m in the peculiar position of applauding the decline in its readership; every time the increasingly-lower circulation figures are published I rejoice in the fact that there are now fewer people being incited or encouraged by Ingrams’ seemingly respectable brand of Jew-loathing.  Once he’s put out to grass I’m sure Ingrams will be able to find a nice little sinecure for himself at a British public school, the well-known anti-Semitic breeding ground from which he himself once emerged.</p>
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		<title>By: vildechaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>vildechaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 02:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haepenny: The answer is yes. I emailed David T yesterday when I saw there were no comments and he confirmed the &quot;legal risk was too great.&quot; He did say he hoped to be able to reopen them sometime in the future, but i wouldn&#039;t hold my breath.

Larry: You write well, if somewhat overheated. A few points. 1-I didn&#039;t lecture you about Israel or anything else. 2-i do think you&#039;re painting an overly black picture. firstly, haaretz is the &quot;intellectual&quot; paper in Israel but it is hardly the &quot;paper of record&quot; or for that matter anywhere near the best-selling daily, as you well know; nor is it routinely &quot;anti-israel&quot;. Some writers and editors are; others aren&#039;t. 3-Meretz IS insignificant, if Israel had a first-past-the-post system they wouldn&#039;t have a single parliamentarian. Conversely, if, say, Canada (where i&#039;m from) had pure proportional representation we&#039;d have parties far crazier, and, i daresay, more self-destructive, than Meretz. 4- there have always been self-hating jews. My parents and grandfathers, who hailed from poland, told me stories about &quot;shabbasgoys&quot; who would stand in front of shuls on yom kippur eating pork. There were kapos who enjoyed their cruelty. There have always been Jews who converted to Christianity, became inquisitors, etc. etc. You think it&#039;s a pathology that you have a cousin who is anti-israeli; i can assure you, it&#039;s the same everywhere, with all peoples, only the stakes are higher in Israel. I do sympathize, but I still think you need to take a chill pill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haepenny: The answer is yes. I emailed David T yesterday when I saw there were no comments and he confirmed the &#8220;legal risk was too great.&#8221; He did say he hoped to be able to reopen them sometime in the future, but i wouldn&#8217;t hold my breath.</p>
<p>Larry: You write well, if somewhat overheated. A few points. 1-I didn&#8217;t lecture you about Israel or anything else. 2-i do think you&#8217;re painting an overly black picture. firstly, haaretz is the &#8220;intellectual&#8221; paper in Israel but it is hardly the &#8220;paper of record&#8221; or for that matter anywhere near the best-selling daily, as you well know; nor is it routinely &#8220;anti-israel&#8221;. Some writers and editors are; others aren&#8217;t. 3-Meretz IS insignificant, if Israel had a first-past-the-post system they wouldn&#8217;t have a single parliamentarian. Conversely, if, say, Canada (where i&#8217;m from) had pure proportional representation we&#8217;d have parties far crazier, and, i daresay, more self-destructive, than Meretz. 4- there have always been self-hating jews. My parents and grandfathers, who hailed from poland, told me stories about &#8220;shabbasgoys&#8221; who would stand in front of shuls on yom kippur eating pork. There were kapos who enjoyed their cruelty. There have always been Jews who converted to Christianity, became inquisitors, etc. etc. You think it&#8217;s a pathology that you have a cousin who is anti-israeli; i can assure you, it&#8217;s the same everywhere, with all peoples, only the stakes are higher in Israel. I do sympathize, but I still think you need to take a chill pill.</p>
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		<title>By: Shlomo USA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shlomo USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 00:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody has heard of Richard Ingrams on our side of the pond. His villainy is contained for now.

I agree with Larry that the &quot;The Oslo Syndrome&quot; is a good explanation for Jewish appeasement of their oppressors. Author Kenneth Levin fails, however, to discuss how traditional rabbinism has ill-prepared the Jewish people for the world of nations. Neither has Ruth Wisse in her book, &quot;Jews and Power&quot;. Although the rabbis, in general, taught their people self control (see Richard L. Rubinstein, &quot;The Religious Imagination&quot;) under powerless circumstances, they offered little practical guidance where a Jewish state and some Diaspora communities can apply many more tools. 

I believe that the best way I can do is to support the pro-Zionist organizations here in the US and let people know I support Israel. If they strongly disagree, I offer some logical arguments. If that fails, I just shrug my shoulders and move on. They get more bent out of shape than I do. The local anti-Zionists who know me fume at my calm, quiet effrontery. They think I have a hotline to the Mossad. But it&#039;s important to persistently offer a counter-narrative, else the bad guys completely dominate the field. Fortunately, many non-Jewish Americans share that counter-narrative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody has heard of Richard Ingrams on our side of the pond. His villainy is contained for now.</p>
<p>I agree with Larry that the &#8220;The Oslo Syndrome&#8221; is a good explanation for Jewish appeasement of their oppressors. Author Kenneth Levin fails, however, to discuss how traditional rabbinism has ill-prepared the Jewish people for the world of nations. Neither has Ruth Wisse in her book, &#8220;Jews and Power&#8221;. Although the rabbis, in general, taught their people self control (see Richard L. Rubinstein, &#8220;The Religious Imagination&#8221;) under powerless circumstances, they offered little practical guidance where a Jewish state and some Diaspora communities can apply many more tools. </p>
<p>I believe that the best way I can do is to support the pro-Zionist organizations here in the US and let people know I support Israel. If they strongly disagree, I offer some logical arguments. If that fails, I just shrug my shoulders and move on. They get more bent out of shape than I do. The local anti-Zionists who know me fume at my calm, quiet effrontery. They think I have a hotline to the Mossad. But it&#8217;s important to persistently offer a counter-narrative, else the bad guys completely dominate the field. Fortunately, many non-Jewish Americans share that counter-narrative.</p>
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		<title>By: Haepenny worth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haepenny worth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 10:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has lawfare closed down Harry&#039;s Place comments?</description>
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		<title>By: Larry in Tel Aviv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry in Tel Aviv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 18:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16 vildechaye 
either what I say is true or it isn&#039;t. It is. I wish I were wrong and were making it all up, unfortunately I am not. Either Ha&#039;Aretz is the &quot;paper of record&quot; in TA or it isn&#039;t. It is. You live in Israel? I&#039;m Israeli and I&#039;m not a young man anymore neither, please don&#039;t lecture me about this nation. I have daily contact with Israelis and Diaspora Jews from all walks of life, do you? Obviously the ones I speak of with contempt are in a small minority, however in a sane society there would be far far fewer of them than there are and they would not have editorial control of our most internationally recognised newspaper and the point is nobody really gives a damn or appears to notice so the apathy is very real and widespread. That is a main point of mine, the apathy to Jewish self-loathing by those of us who are not ashamed that Israel dares to exist and fight for its survival, the apathy among the best of us - this is what is scary. Such apathy does not bode well for a nation fighting for its survival not only against Iran and Hezbollah and Hamas and Fatah and Syria etc but the west too which is following the path of appeasement and where Jew-hatred is at its heighest levels since WW2.    

A whole political party is insane, even if it is a marginal one (Meretz). If Israel was only semi-sane Meretz would not even exist. Just in the last four days I have met two North American JINOs who fit the pattern I describe, I have only met three North American Jews in the last few days and two of them fit the pattern! Maybe that was a bad little run but it is hardly unusual. I have one aunt and two uncles in TA who are also filled with Jewish self-loathing. I know them and you don&#039;t. At least one cousin of same type. Actually only one cousin filled with self-loathing thank HaShem. However the fact that I am grateful only one cousin of mine is a self-loathing Jew tells you how insane things are. In a sane or even semi-sane society I should not have to be grateful that only one of my first cousins is a self-hating Jew. It ought to be as rare as having a family relative think he is Napolean or Julius Ceasar or the messiah himself. It isn&#039;t that rare or unusual among Ashkenazi Jews (especially in TA), unfortunately not. Many of the Westerners (esp Europeans) who visit here are anti-Semitic, simple fact as many Israelis can tell you, as are many of the Arab Muslim population in Israel proper. Many of course are not, thankfully.

It is not so much self-loathing alone or even predominantly, it is denial, and I mean extreme DENIAL rooted in a wilfull ignorance of Middle-East realities, because the reality is too difficult to bear. A seperate parallel reality is where many Jews live, a fairyland, one that has no bearing to the real world at all, this is in fact a major neurosis and its consequences can be deadly to us. In fact there was a very good book on this subject by Harvard pyschiatrist Kenneth Levin entitled &#039;Oslo Syndrome - Delusions of a People under Siege&#039;. Of course this is a syndrome hardly unique to Jews, but what Levin calls Oslo Syndrome is its peculiar Jewish variant. Robin Shepard is arguably more of a Jew than most English language Diaspora Jewry (and sleepwalking North American Jews for sure), and when I say that, it is intended as a compliment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16 vildechaye<br />
either what I say is true or it isn&#8217;t. It is. I wish I were wrong and were making it all up, unfortunately I am not. Either Ha&#8217;Aretz is the &#8220;paper of record&#8221; in TA or it isn&#8217;t. It is. You live in Israel? I&#8217;m Israeli and I&#8217;m not a young man anymore neither, please don&#8217;t lecture me about this nation. I have daily contact with Israelis and Diaspora Jews from all walks of life, do you? Obviously the ones I speak of with contempt are in a small minority, however in a sane society there would be far far fewer of them than there are and they would not have editorial control of our most internationally recognised newspaper and the point is nobody really gives a damn or appears to notice so the apathy is very real and widespread. That is a main point of mine, the apathy to Jewish self-loathing by those of us who are not ashamed that Israel dares to exist and fight for its survival, the apathy among the best of us &#8211; this is what is scary. Such apathy does not bode well for a nation fighting for its survival not only against Iran and Hezbollah and Hamas and Fatah and Syria etc but the west too which is following the path of appeasement and where Jew-hatred is at its heighest levels since WW2.    </p>
<p>A whole political party is insane, even if it is a marginal one (Meretz). If Israel was only semi-sane Meretz would not even exist. Just in the last four days I have met two North American JINOs who fit the pattern I describe, I have only met three North American Jews in the last few days and two of them fit the pattern! Maybe that was a bad little run but it is hardly unusual. I have one aunt and two uncles in TA who are also filled with Jewish self-loathing. I know them and you don&#8217;t. At least one cousin of same type. Actually only one cousin filled with self-loathing thank HaShem. However the fact that I am grateful only one cousin of mine is a self-loathing Jew tells you how insane things are. In a sane or even semi-sane society I should not have to be grateful that only one of my first cousins is a self-hating Jew. It ought to be as rare as having a family relative think he is Napolean or Julius Ceasar or the messiah himself. It isn&#8217;t that rare or unusual among Ashkenazi Jews (especially in TA), unfortunately not. Many of the Westerners (esp Europeans) who visit here are anti-Semitic, simple fact as many Israelis can tell you, as are many of the Arab Muslim population in Israel proper. Many of course are not, thankfully.</p>
<p>It is not so much self-loathing alone or even predominantly, it is denial, and I mean extreme DENIAL rooted in a wilfull ignorance of Middle-East realities, because the reality is too difficult to bear. A seperate parallel reality is where many Jews live, a fairyland, one that has no bearing to the real world at all, this is in fact a major neurosis and its consequences can be deadly to us. In fact there was a very good book on this subject by Harvard pyschiatrist Kenneth Levin entitled &#8216;Oslo Syndrome &#8211; Delusions of a People under Siege&#8217;. Of course this is a syndrome hardly unique to Jews, but what Levin calls Oslo Syndrome is its peculiar Jewish variant. Robin Shepard is arguably more of a Jew than most English language Diaspora Jewry (and sleepwalking North American Jews for sure), and when I say that, it is intended as a compliment.</p>
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		<title>By: Epidermoid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Epidermoid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan Karmi
&quot;I don’t see the problem. Ingrams is not an expert on the Middle East, in fact he’s not an expert on anything. His trashy views are appearing in a worthless rag of a newspaper. So what ??

He applies his inexpertise to the abuse and murder of children writing foul invective against those whose duties are employed in the protection of innocents against the malign intentions of their guardians. He is a bully.</description>
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&#8220;I don’t see the problem. Ingrams is not an expert on the Middle East, in fact he’s not an expert on anything. His trashy views are appearing in a worthless rag of a newspaper. So what ??</p>
<p>He applies his inexpertise to the abuse and murder of children writing foul invective against those whose duties are employed in the protection of innocents against the malign intentions of their guardians. He is a bully.</p>
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		<title>By: vildechaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>vildechaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 01:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry: Sounds like you could use some medication yourself. You&#039;re plucking the worst of the worst and making it sound like daily life. Come on!</description>
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		<title>By: Gábor Fränkl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gábor Fränkl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Larry: &quot;A restaurant/bar in Tel Aviv would not let soldiers in uniform enter, because of the Jewish staff’s open contempt for the IDF.&quot; Thank God this &quot;custom&quot; of the extremist anarchists was abolished there. I checked it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Larry: &#8220;A restaurant/bar in Tel Aviv would not let soldiers in uniform enter, because of the Jewish staff’s open contempt for the IDF.&#8221; Thank God this &#8220;custom&#8221; of the extremist anarchists was abolished there. I checked it.</p>
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