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		<title>By: Another Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honest Reporting has carried out an in-depth analysis of bias at the BBC for the first quarter of this year.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honest Reporting has carried out an in-depth analysis of bias at the BBC for the first quarter of this year.<br />
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		<title>By: Gábor Fränkl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gábor Fränkl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BBC as a news provider/source has no legimacy by now. &quot;No right to exist!&quot; It has self-destructed its credibility not just on Israel, but on virtually any topic of global interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The BBC as a news provider/source has no legimacy by now. &#8220;No right to exist!&#8221; It has self-destructed its credibility not just on Israel, but on virtually any topic of global interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Karmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Karmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The great variation in perceptions held by people in different countries shows that this survey tells us more about the perceivers than the perceived.

From an Israeli point-of-view, it&#039;s a useful index of ignorance and bigotry across different points of the globe.

Amongst the 28 countries surveyed, Germany now holds most negative opinions of the Jewish state aside from Egypt and Turkey.  More Germans hold negative opinions than people in the three other Muslim countries (Pakistan, Azerbaijan and Indonesia).  This is just 65 years after the Holocaust.  Well I never, what a surprise.

With 92% of Egyptians assigning a negative opinion and only 3% assigning a positive opinion, it looks as though the peace with Egypt is built on sand.  I assume the positives came from amongst Egypt’s mass of illiterates who have trouble with words of more than two syllables.  “Positive” and “negative” must have got them confused.

However, the large year-on-year variations in negative opinions in some countries, eg. Australia and Canada (as Robin has indicated), indicate a degree of unreliability in the survey.

What does it mean for Israel in practical terms ?  It looks as though the status quo is unsustainable.  These perceptions are liable to take a heavy political and economic toll in the long-term, especially as younger politicians who share those opinions reach power.  Nick Clegg is the obvious example.

This problem goes way beyond “better hasbara” and means Israel has to make a visible commitment to peace negotiations.  If the Palestinians cannot recognise the State of Israel as a nation-state for the Jewish people, then Palestinian duplicity will be exposed for all to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The great variation in perceptions held by people in different countries shows that this survey tells us more about the perceivers than the perceived.</p>
<p>From an Israeli point-of-view, it&#8217;s a useful index of ignorance and bigotry across different points of the globe.</p>
<p>Amongst the 28 countries surveyed, Germany now holds most negative opinions of the Jewish state aside from Egypt and Turkey.  More Germans hold negative opinions than people in the three other Muslim countries (Pakistan, Azerbaijan and Indonesia).  This is just 65 years after the Holocaust.  Well I never, what a surprise.</p>
<p>With 92% of Egyptians assigning a negative opinion and only 3% assigning a positive opinion, it looks as though the peace with Egypt is built on sand.  I assume the positives came from amongst Egypt’s mass of illiterates who have trouble with words of more than two syllables.  “Positive” and “negative” must have got them confused.</p>
<p>However, the large year-on-year variations in negative opinions in some countries, eg. Australia and Canada (as Robin has indicated), indicate a degree of unreliability in the survey.</p>
<p>What does it mean for Israel in practical terms ?  It looks as though the status quo is unsustainable.  These perceptions are liable to take a heavy political and economic toll in the long-term, especially as younger politicians who share those opinions reach power.  Nick Clegg is the obvious example.</p>
<p>This problem goes way beyond “better hasbara” and means Israel has to make a visible commitment to peace negotiations.  If the Palestinians cannot recognise the State of Israel as a nation-state for the Jewish people, then Palestinian duplicity will be exposed for all to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US has far greater levels of superstitious religiosity than the rest of the Western World but their rates for negative influence have declined dramatically recently. You might want to consider that politics and foreign affairs has some bearing on the issue. In any case your own fear of God never seems to get in the way of attacking his people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US has far greater levels of superstitious religiosity than the rest of the Western World but their rates for negative influence have declined dramatically recently. You might want to consider that politics and foreign affairs has some bearing on the issue. In any case your own fear of God never seems to get in the way of attacking his people.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering their source (the BBC) perhaps you should question the validity or at least the real meaning of these results.

With these kind of polls it very much depends on what questions you ask, and sometimes (as in this case I suspect) what answers you&#039;re looking to get. 

For instance, compare the BBC commissioned poll with these recently published, and completely contradictory results from Gallup (comparable in terms of sample size).

&quot;Americans’ Support for Israel Unchanged Since Gaza Conflict&quot;
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116308/Americans-Support-Israel-Unchanged-Gaza-Conflict.aspx

and

&quot;Support for Israel in U.S. at 63%, Near Record High&quot;
http://www.gallup.com/poll/126155/support-israel-near-record-high.aspx

The Gallup article in the first reference includes this: 

&quot;The 59% favoring Israel this year is identical to what Gallup found in February 2008, and similar to the annual reading each year since 2006.&quot;

How can that reflect the same American view of Israel summarised in the BBC report by:

&quot;The USA has remained one of the two countries offering a positive rating overall [for Israel], although this has dropped seven points (now 40%, down from 47%).&quot;

Note also that the headline finding of the BBC report is:
&quot;Global Views of United States Improve&quot;
&quot;Compared to a year earlier, negative ratings of the United States have dropped a striking nine points on average across the countries surveyed both years, while positive ratings are up a more modest four points&quot;

Unsurprisingly (from the BBC) a very pro-Obama finding, and one that sits quite naturally alongside results that vilify Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering their source (the BBC) perhaps you should question the validity or at least the real meaning of these results.</p>
<p>With these kind of polls it very much depends on what questions you ask, and sometimes (as in this case I suspect) what answers you&#8217;re looking to get. </p>
<p>For instance, compare the BBC commissioned poll with these recently published, and completely contradictory results from Gallup (comparable in terms of sample size).</p>
<p>&#8220;Americans’ Support for Israel Unchanged Since Gaza Conflict&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/116308/Americans-Support-Israel-Unchanged-Gaza-Conflict.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.gallup.com/poll/116308/Americans-Support-Israel-Unchanged-Gaza-Conflict.aspx</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p>&#8220;Support for Israel in U.S. at 63%, Near Record High&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.gallup.com/poll/126155/support-israel-near-record-high.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.gallup.com/poll/126155/support-israel-near-record-high.aspx</a></p>
<p>The Gallup article in the first reference includes this: </p>
<p>&#8220;The 59% favoring Israel this year is identical to what Gallup found in February 2008, and similar to the annual reading each year since 2006.&#8221;</p>
<p>How can that reflect the same American view of Israel summarised in the BBC report by:</p>
<p>&#8220;The USA has remained one of the two countries offering a positive rating overall [for Israel], although this has dropped seven points (now 40%, down from 47%).&#8221;</p>
<p>Note also that the headline finding of the BBC report is:<br />
&#8220;Global Views of United States Improve&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Compared to a year earlier, negative ratings of the United States have dropped a striking nine points on average across the countries surveyed both years, while positive ratings are up a more modest four points&#8221;</p>
<p>Unsurprisingly (from the BBC) a very pro-Obama finding, and one that sits quite naturally alongside results that vilify Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: wolf t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>wolf t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m willing to bet that the same percentages will hold for the very same survey with a simple change: substituting Jew for Israel.
The support numbers for Israel will continue to decline in direct proportion to the decline of religion in the West. Those who do not fear God do not fear to attack His people.

As always, ultimate Jewish existence is in the hands of God, not its enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m willing to bet that the same percentages will hold for the very same survey with a simple change: substituting Jew for Israel.<br />
The support numbers for Israel will continue to decline in direct proportion to the decline of religion in the West. Those who do not fear God do not fear to attack His people.</p>
<p>As always, ultimate Jewish existence is in the hands of God, not its enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The results are uniformly disconcerting to people who know more about the Israeli point of view.  It speaks to the ease with which most people are manipulated and the power of the mass media to do so.  Refusal to report on positive events within Israel and between Israel and its neighbors suggests that he who controls the press controls public opinion to a truly surprising degree.  We may conclude from such poll findings that prejudgment begins at the top and filters down through those who depend for their information on the mass media.  

In this regard Israel Matzav reports today &quot;European Union funding 
media course in promoting Saudi plan.&quot;  (http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/)  Given such blatant pressures to be brought on both the European and Israel populace, it is a great wonder that Israel has persisted in its fight for survival so long.  May it long continue to &quot;buck the odds.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The results are uniformly disconcerting to people who know more about the Israeli point of view.  It speaks to the ease with which most people are manipulated and the power of the mass media to do so.  Refusal to report on positive events within Israel and between Israel and its neighbors suggests that he who controls the press controls public opinion to a truly surprising degree.  We may conclude from such poll findings that prejudgment begins at the top and filters down through those who depend for their information on the mass media.  </p>
<p>In this regard Israel Matzav reports today &#8220;European Union funding<br />
media course in promoting Saudi plan.&#8221;  (<a href="http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/</a>)  Given such blatant pressures to be brought on both the European and Israel populace, it is a great wonder that Israel has persisted in its fight for survival so long.  May it long continue to &#8220;buck the odds.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dizzy Ringo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dizzy Ringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But how did they pick their sample?  By the selection of blogs which I read, they appear to be readers of the MSM. When the genuine facts are considered, the Israelis seem to be much maligned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But how did they pick their sample?  By the selection of blogs which I read, they appear to be readers of the MSM. When the genuine facts are considered, the Israelis seem to be much maligned.</p>
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