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		<title>By: Gábor Fränkl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gábor Fränkl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 04:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I *obligated* to love the English, Joshua?</description>
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		<title>By: Another Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.robinshepherdonline.com/the-new-turkish-jihad-against-israel-and-the-west/#comment-3957</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 07:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I wrote about BP, I was not defending or attacking it, I was commenting over the way Obama has attacked yet another trusted ally, Israel being the other,  when it really needs as much support as it can get , especially with regard to dealing with Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I wrote about BP, I was not defending or attacking it, I was commenting over the way Obama has attacked yet another trusted ally, Israel being the other,  when it really needs as much support as it can get , especially with regard to dealing with Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Joshua</title>
		<link>http://www.robinshepherdonline.com/the-new-turkish-jihad-against-israel-and-the-west/#comment-3949</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 21:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gabor, I think you have articulated the human condition  beautifully if I may say, in your short autobiographical point. I take the point of irrational hatred which you so vehemently condemn and at the same time  and with the  internal conflict this creates,  of recognizing it in oneself and the distress that this creates. I am grateful to you for your honesty and sharing your thoughts and feelings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabor, I think you have articulated the human condition  beautifully if I may say, in your short autobiographical point. I take the point of irrational hatred which you so vehemently condemn and at the same time  and with the  internal conflict this creates,  of recognizing it in oneself and the distress that this creates. I am grateful to you for your honesty and sharing your thoughts and feelings.</p>
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		<title>By: DP111</title>
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		<dc:creator>DP111</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Obama a Manchurian President?

Worth reading.

&lt;b&gt;The Manchurian President: Barack Obama's Ties to Communists, Socialists and Other Anti-American Extremists&lt;/b&gt; 

http://www.amazon.com/Manchurian-President-Communists-Socialists-Anti-American/dp/1935071874/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1276260018&#38;sr=1-1


And the media complicity in covering up the past of Obama.

&lt;b&gt;The Pathology of Media Denial &lt;/b&gt;
Jun 11 

Written by: Diana West

http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/1433/The-Pathology-of-Media-Denial.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Obama a Manchurian President?</p>
<p>Worth reading.</p>
<p><b>The Manchurian President: Barack Obama&#8217;s Ties to Communists, Socialists and Other Anti-American Extremists</b> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Manchurian-President-Communists-Socialists-Anti-American/dp/1935071874/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1276260018&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Manchurian-President-Communists-Socialists-Anti-American/dp/1935071874/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1276260018&amp;sr=1-1</a></p>
<p>And the media complicity in covering up the past of Obama.</p>
<p><b>The Pathology of Media Denial </b><br />
Jun 11 </p>
<p>Written by: Diana West</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/1433/The-Pathology-of-Media-Denial.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/1433/The-Pathology-of-Media-Denial.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gábor Fränkl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gábor Fränkl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Joshua and others:

I understand you are British judging by your above comment on the BP-case. Pardon me, perhaps this response won't see the light of day and I'll be thrown out here.
Let me be please try to offer my own perspective without the radical voice that sometimes, not often, but sometimes pops out behind my comments. 
Loving something or someone is often an irrational concept/act based on impressions and deep emotions.

I deeply dislike and distrust Obama and his cohorts/gang.
I object to ALL particles of his basic instincts and his ideology, barred one.
You may well know what this particular particle might be. Just let me tell you one thing: when I was 13 years old I got a book on "Europe", a geopolitical album presenting all European states one by one. By the margins of the page showing Britain, and concretely a pic of Canterbury Cathedral this early teenage boy wrote the follwing: "The conservative miracle in an unmistakable British favour" - sycophantic fawning about England, expressing my unconditional love about it in childish and lofty words. That was then. More than twice that age now, I know better.
I blame myself secretly since irrationality (hatred?) is not a good guiding principle for one's life and I am in a deep dilemma, cause it's a bit hard to blame the hate Israel-brigade with a vengence without looking a bit hypocritical. Still, I think Britain's existance is not in danger as things stand today. The same cannot be told about Israel, so comparing myself to my "fellow" haters is inaccurate. Still, and that's why I may carry a price to say, I couldn't have been happier when me and my father conversed about this issue. It's a torturing moral dilemma for me as I said, if it's just or moral to "wish" the pensions of perfectly honest and kind millions of (old) men and women to suffer the consequences. From this perspective I am ashamed of it. From the perspective of *BRITAIN's*, and more closely ENGLAND's, I turn a 180 degree. 
This is mainly about history - mostly - but partly about the present too. I couldn't be more glad if this company went under with all its consequences. Partly yes, because of the immense and outrageous damage it caused, partly because of other reasons. I very much love the US, but this is not the object of comparison here. England is antisemitic as it is. It's an antisemitic nation. Perhaps more so than the Scottish and the other hapless Celtic looked down upon (by me) riff raff. Of course one cannot/should not generalize but still this is what I think. In comparison I'd never - - or to be more precise not likely - - ever wish an economical damage to two peoples, the Italianas and the Dutch. As I told you at the beginning "love" is a strange concept and often impossible to consciously direct or contain it, 'cause it's instinctive and comes from very deep inside.

In general, I love the Italians and I like the Dutch and their countries (in spite of this latter being - as stereotypes, which are risky business, - never!!! as kind or even friendly as the few English people I met, being the perception about the Dutch as grumpy, stingy, greedy and unfriendly Stereotypes go a long way...).
I don't like England. Read betwen the lines Joshua.
 I understand if this will be problematic to publish and won't be.
I am sorry. I cannot help it.</description>
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<p>I understand you are British judging by your above comment on the BP-case. Pardon me, perhaps this response won&#8217;t see the light of day and I&#8217;ll be thrown out here.<br />
Let me be please try to offer my own perspective without the radical voice that sometimes, not often, but sometimes pops out behind my comments.<br />
Loving something or someone is often an irrational concept/act based on impressions and deep emotions.</p>
<p>I deeply dislike and distrust Obama and his cohorts/gang.<br />
I object to ALL particles of his basic instincts and his ideology, barred one.<br />
You may well know what this particular particle might be. Just let me tell you one thing: when I was 13 years old I got a book on &#8220;Europe&#8221;, a geopolitical album presenting all European states one by one. By the margins of the page showing Britain, and concretely a pic of Canterbury Cathedral this early teenage boy wrote the follwing: &#8220;The conservative miracle in an unmistakable British favour&#8221; - sycophantic fawning about England, expressing my unconditional love about it in childish and lofty words. That was then. More than twice that age now, I know better.<br />
I blame myself secretly since irrationality (hatred?) is not a good guiding principle for one&#8217;s life and I am in a deep dilemma, cause it&#8217;s a bit hard to blame the hate Israel-brigade with a vengence without looking a bit hypocritical. Still, I think Britain&#8217;s existance is not in danger as things stand today. The same cannot be told about Israel, so comparing myself to my &#8220;fellow&#8221; haters is inaccurate. Still, and that&#8217;s why I may carry a price to say, I couldn&#8217;t have been happier when me and my father conversed about this issue. It&#8217;s a torturing moral dilemma for me as I said, if it&#8217;s just or moral to &#8220;wish&#8221; the pensions of perfectly honest and kind millions of (old) men and women to suffer the consequences. From this perspective I am ashamed of it. From the perspective of *BRITAIN&#8217;s*, and more closely ENGLAND&#8217;s, I turn a 180 degree.<br />
This is mainly about history - mostly - but partly about the present too. I couldn&#8217;t be more glad if this company went under with all its consequences. Partly yes, because of the immense and outrageous damage it caused, partly because of other reasons. I very much love the US, but this is not the object of comparison here. England is antisemitic as it is. It&#8217;s an antisemitic nation. Perhaps more so than the Scottish and the other hapless Celtic looked down upon (by me) riff raff. Of course one cannot/should not generalize but still this is what I think. In comparison I&#8217;d never - - or to be more precise not likely - - ever wish an economical damage to two peoples, the Italianas and the Dutch. As I told you at the beginning &#8220;love&#8221; is a strange concept and often impossible to consciously direct or contain it, &#8217;cause it&#8217;s instinctive and comes from very deep inside.</p>
<p>In general, I love the Italians and I like the Dutch and their countries (in spite of this latter being - as stereotypes, which are risky business, - never!!! as kind or even friendly as the few English people I met, being the perception about the Dutch as grumpy, stingy, greedy and unfriendly Stereotypes go a long way&#8230;).<br />
I don&#8217;t like England. Read betwen the lines Joshua.<br />
 I understand if this will be problematic to publish and won&#8217;t be.<br />
I am sorry. I cannot help it.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Gabor. I always read your comments with interest. With regard to the Guardian, I share your concerns and indeed it seems nearly virtually all of the time that this particular newspaper carries forward a hateful message towards Israel and thus fuels hatred towards Jewish people, or more to the point, to those  Jews who have sympathy towards Israel, which of course is a large majority. Were its policy to change, the Guardian could lose a sizeable part of its readership. Not a bad thing perhaps, but if we cannot have that then it is a small mercy and  always welcome when that paper chooses to open up in a less confrontational way and tries instead to restore some balance. It's the balance that we want to see restored to the news, not a bias of such  unacceptable levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Gabor. I always read your comments with interest. With regard to the Guardian, I share your concerns and indeed it seems nearly virtually all of the time that this particular newspaper carries forward a hateful message towards Israel and thus fuels hatred towards Jewish people, or more to the point, to those  Jews who have sympathy towards Israel, which of course is a large majority. Were its policy to change, the Guardian could lose a sizeable part of its readership. Not a bad thing perhaps, but if we cannot have that then it is a small mercy and  always welcome when that paper chooses to open up in a less confrontational way and tries instead to restore some balance. It&#8217;s the balance that we want to see restored to the news, not a bias of such  unacceptable levels.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin, it remains highly contentious to refer to the deaths of so many Armenians, many of whom were murdered, as a "genocide", along the lines as one uses such a term to describe what happened  to Jews, Gypsies and Slavs, during WWll.

Both Professor Bernard Lewis and  Professor Norman Stone make the clear distinction, whilst not playing down the tragedy or its significance and therefore, if they are right to make the distinction and the distinction is right, I think one should remain circumspect when using this term in connection with some of the very recent disturbing statements and actions by Turkey. This is one key issue that has been used by countries like France to keep Turkey out of the EU and which may be one factor in driving Turkey eastwards, or at least gives it an undeserved pretext to do so.

Here is Bernard Lewis:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG70UWESfu4

And here, Norman Stone:

http://www.turkishcoalition.org/media/stone.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, it remains highly contentious to refer to the deaths of so many Armenians, many of whom were murdered, as a &#8220;genocide&#8221;, along the lines as one uses such a term to describe what happened  to Jews, Gypsies and Slavs, during WWll.</p>
<p>Both Professor Bernard Lewis and  Professor Norman Stone make the clear distinction, whilst not playing down the tragedy or its significance and therefore, if they are right to make the distinction and the distinction is right, I think one should remain circumspect when using this term in connection with some of the very recent disturbing statements and actions by Turkey. This is one key issue that has been used by countries like France to keep Turkey out of the EU and which may be one factor in driving Turkey eastwards, or at least gives it an undeserved pretext to do so.</p>
<p>Here is Bernard Lewis:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG70UWESfu4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG70UWESfu4</a></p>
<p>And here, Norman Stone:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.turkishcoalition.org/media/stone.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.turkishcoalition.org/media/stone.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gábor Fränkl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gábor Fränkl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Robin: I sincirely believe it all depends on one factor, namely: the composition of the Guardian's readership. Can you actually say that how much is the proportion of the readership that is "sane" i.e.: convincable by reasonable arguments? IF it is less than 10 per cent (I am doubtful) then it's all worthless, what's more contrapoductive in terms of providing it with undue legitimacy. Don't you agree that there are NO such readers among their consumers???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Robin: I sincirely believe it all depends on one factor, namely: the composition of the Guardian&#8217;s readership. Can you actually say that how much is the proportion of the readership that is &#8220;sane&#8221; i.e.: convincable by reasonable arguments? IF it is less than 10 per cent (I am doubtful) then it&#8217;s all worthless, what&#8217;s more contrapoductive in terms of providing it with undue legitimacy. Don&#8217;t you agree that there are NO such readers among their consumers???</p>
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		<title>By: Another Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As my mother use to say: The fish smells from the head. The US appears to have lost the plot. Even with the rhetoric about BP to pay back every cent , as if they would not compensate easily is sounding hollow. The UK that paid back every cent to the US for its assistance in WWll, the UK that commits its trrops with the US in Afghanistan and Iraq, to be shown such contempt is a disgrace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As my mother use to say: The fish smells from the head. The US appears to have lost the plot. Even with the rhetoric about BP to pay back every cent , as if they would not compensate easily is sounding hollow. The UK that paid back every cent to the US for its assistance in WWll, the UK that commits its trrops with the US in Afghanistan and Iraq, to be shown such contempt is a disgrace</p>
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		<title>By: wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/27978

Colonel Gaddafi on the Turkish Trojan Horse.</description>
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<p>Colonel Gaddafi on the Turkish Trojan Horse.</p>
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